Showing posts with label carnism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label carnism. Show all posts

Friday, 13 April 2018

But what about the piggies and the cowsies and the absolute units???

I know I really need to lay off the vegan-themed blogs BUT I saw this comment on a post via Facebook about Richard Branson supporting alternatives to meat and I just HAD to respond-slash-rant. Here it is:

"But my worry is what will happen to all the animals. 
I am vegetarian and love animals but if no-one makes a profit from farm animals, 
will anyone look after them or will they be left to roam wild. 
It's such a dilemma but animals do need to be protected"

And this response from another complete idiot:

"Exactly my concern. If there is no profit in raising cattle, pigs, etc., who will raise them? What will become of them? 
If everyone becomes vegan, then chickens, goats and more will also become too expensive to feed and provide veterinary care. It's not that simple."

WHAT??? Honestly, the stupidity here is mind-boggling, especially from someone who already identifies as vegetarian, but sadly it's an argument I have heard time and again.

Who is 'looking after' the animals now? Animals are BRED to be used and abused and slaughtered for our 'needs'. Is that 'looking after' them? We feed them so they can grow. We give them medical aid so their flesh is safe to eat. We address only our needs not theirs.

Farm animals exist not because they were provided for our use because God or nature created them that way but because of animal husbandry. The selective breeding of animals which originally existed in the wild changed them beyond all recognition. They would most likely not survive in the wild although I think rehabilitation would be possible. As and when meat production ends they will simply not be bred anymore. Just as since motor vehicles came in people breed far less cart-horses! It is AMAZINGLY simple.

The meat industry will, sadly, not screech to a halt overnight leaving millions of farmed animals to starve. IF it ever ends completely it will fizzle out slowly, become a niche market and only THEN will the industry die out, with comparatively few animals left within it. And what would most likely happen is that show animals, petting zoos and regular zoos would prevent certain breeds and species from going extinct. Hopefully existing agricultural laws would protect any farmers' unwanted livestock from being left to starve or whatever these idiots imagine will happen...

Seriously, how do people not understand this?!

Monday, 26 February 2018

Hashtag MeatyMarch

Obviously I have blogged about my veganism before and this'll probably cover a lot of old ground but, if you know me, you'll know I love to give my opinions...repeatedly.

Personal backstory for those of you new here:
I was ill for YEARS. My symptoms probably started around 1997 and I was diagnosed* with IBS but as a stay-at-home mom the idea of my gut problems being stress-induced never seemed right. Symptoms hit when I was calm and relaxed; I'd be stressed out of my gourd and NADA. On top of that none of the medications I was given did me any good.
*Diagnosis of IBS is basically made if you have a number of a set of symptoms. There is no diagnostic testing. I was not comprehensively tested to rule out other conditions. I never saw a dietitian or nutritionist despite serious weight issues alongside my life-impairing diarrhoea and constipation.
One day in 2012 I was at the GP...about my knee, I think, and I overheard two mums talking. One was detailing her kid's symptoms. I thought "he's got IBS like me" but instead the other mum said "I bet he's lactose intolerant like my kid". AND IN THAT MOMENT MY WORLD CHANGED.
I went into my appointment, I presume. But even at the time I could remember nothing from it. I went home, cleared out the kitchen cupboards and started an experiment. It took time - my bowels were a terrible mess after 15 years - but four months later I was symptom free. My GP still refused to have me tested or amend my records. They REALLY don't like admitting they're wrong.
The next problem was my willpower. I don't have any. I knew I SHOULDN'T eat dairy but I kept giving in to temptation. By late 2015 the solution was obvious: I had to go vegan. I was already vegetarian and my mum is allergic to eggs so it made perfect sense to me. Life has been far easier ever since (although I admit eating out can be a bloody nightmare!)
This is why veganism was the right choice for ME, not gonna assume it is right for anyone else but I strongly recommend trying it...not least cos it's easier than you think. I wish I had done it 'for the animals' but I didn't. I need to be honest about that.

Context backstory for this blog:
I wrote a blog last month called 'Veganuary Validity' which explains a lot of it but for those of you living under a rock... The Veganuary campaign is a year-round campaign but its main focus is to encourage people to try veganism as a new years' resolution for the month of January - to raise awareness and encourage people to at least reduce their animal-product consumption.
It is doing well and is helping veganism to become an increasingly mainstream lifestyle choice.
This, of course, pisses of the industries that produce animal-based products.
The dairy industry attempted to fight back with 'Februdairy' - cute pics of cows in fields etc...naturally, we countered this with tangible facts or as they chose to put it "extremist vegan propaganda". My personal thing was to post to Instagram (linked to Twitter and Facebook) one vegan dairy substitute product per day for the entire month. Fell out with my kids' grandfather over it and had to unfriend him. If he thought *I* was being extreme god knows what he'd make of rape racks and slaughtered newborn calves!
...Now the meat industry are trying their own hashtag campaign - MeatyMarch. I swear, this is so stupid you can't make it up. Our culture has carnism so ingrained that I can't imagine why they think more propaganda would convert us back to meat-eating. 
*Carnism - "the prevailing ideology in which people support the use and consumption of animal products, especially meat" (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnism) usually involving the false belief that humans NEED milk and dairy in their diet, and speciesism - believing that humans have innate rights to use animals as a resource.

This blog is to accompany my own anti-MeatyMarch 'campaign'. 
Just like with Februdairy I'm not going to push veganism as such, I am not going to post graphic images from slaughterhouses; there are loads of people / organisations posting those things. I'm just gonna share a bunch of alternatives to meat.
Y'all don't have to quit meat, y'all don't have to be offended by my veggie burgers - I'm just showing what I eat and trying a few new products along the way. For me, this is about AWARENESS; if I can inspire anyone to try meat-reducing that's just a bonus.

Now for the important point: 
Veganism doesn't HAVE to involve mock meats. There are a whole load of *ahem* certain vegans who say you're not even vegan if you eat mock meats. There are also a whole load of people who give you hassle if you eat these things because they're not super healthy.
Let me make this perfectly clear: the principle of veganism is about eliminating cruelty to animals. Mock meats are not hurting animals ergo mock meats are vegan. You can be a raw food vegan or a junk food vegan - IT DOESN'T MATTER. Or at least not to anyone but yourself.
I eat quite a lot of products intended to replace meat in a meal. Partly because that is what I am used to and partly because I enjoy them. I am not 'promoting' the use of mock meats as such...just showing that just cos you go vegan doesn't mean you can't have a Christmas Feast or a Burns' Night Haggis or whatever. Most carnists are all "I couldn't live without bacon" or something equally inane so naturally enough I have chosen to show that yes, we too have bacon.
I do actually want to cut down my dependence on comparatively expensive, processed, premade vegan foods including mock meats but I don't anticipate ever giving them up. I enjoy food and I don't subscribe to the idea that veganism is about going without. That was the whole point with my Februdairy posts...it  was all about saying "Look! I have milk, cheese, yoghurt, Ben and Jerrys, chocolate, custard, fudge, ranch dressing and EVERYTHING! Veganism ISN'T all raw carrots and tasteless cardboardy shit and self-denial" and that's the attitude I'm taking into MeatyMarch.
If people want to eat fully raw, raw till 4, wholefoods whatever that's entirely their choice and I don't have a problem with that but I will never be okay with those people hassling junk food vegans or saying sh*t like eating something that looks like meat is as bad as killing a cow. It literally makes no sense and makes all vegans look like psychos.

The infighting between vegans is really concerning. Everyone has their own way of doing things - their own preferences and lifestyles. For someone who can spend a couple of hours preparing a meal from scratch to criticise someone who lives a busy commuter lifestyle is grossly unfair. As someone with an eating disorder the idea of complete strangers feeling they have the right to tell me if they feel my dietary choices are healthy or not is terrifying. 'Live and let live' should be for other humans as well as farmed animals.

Oh yeah, and if you don't think there are vegans who are a problem in and of themselves there are videos such as this explaining just why it's an issue:
"The Problem With Crazy Vegans" by What Mia Did Next
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkfRKHPJwhY
...and I quote: "militant, insulting, offensive vegans". Alienating potential vegans is just such an incredibly dumb tactic. I may not know marketing, and TBH I don't care, that's not what I'm here for. I'm into the leading by example thing: 'if I can do it you can too, if you want to' and...'this is what I eat, feel free to give it a try'.

Postscript
Another thing I want to touch on here is veganism and pet ownership. There's the PETA type lot who think that having a pet is tantamount to slave ownership; and there's the ethical vegan lot who think that you simply can't have a pet (like a cat) which is an obligate carnivore and buy meat for their consumption.
Meat is necessary for a cat; it's not for a human. That shouldn't mean a human who eschews meat can't have a cat.
Here's my take: pet ownership can be cruel. Keeping one animal in isolation is TERRIBLE. Animals have rights. END OF, okay?! But...I have a cat. He has his personal freedom. Yes, he is neutered but as the 'owner' of a male cat I feel that is a responsible decision. I wish there was another option but...you know, if I'm not the owner of the momma cat I can't take responsibility for that.
I buy my cat meat because he needs it, biologically. I don't buy meat for myself and my homo sapiens family because we don't. We get an ethical choice; he doesn't. I love my fur-baby; I am confident he has a good life; he was adopted, not bought from a breeder. I feel ZERO guilt here.
Of course NOT having a cat and NOT buying meat would be better but I LOVE my cat...it feels to me kind of like my 'choice' to be a teen mom. It was a choice in a sense but in another it wasn't...like, this cat would have been born if it wasn't for me so I feel no guilt giving him the best life I can; my kids have a life because of me and I do my best by them, even if 'society' disapproves.. All I do is look after him the best I can. Just as my kids were a choice of sorts and I stepped up to do the best I could by them. Saying the world would be better if my kids weren't here is just as much bullshit as to say the same of not adopting a fur-baby. Does that even make sense??? Do the best by any lives which depend on you.
An animal lover who won't offer food and shelter to a living creature is a strange contradiction to me. Love your pets, treat them well, don't deny them what THEY need.


Monday, 29 January 2018

Veganuary Validity

I was packing up my vintage Pyrex - yes, I know I just moved in but my dad has decided to construct a kind of built-in sideboard for me - and an article in one of the old newspapers I was using caught my eye. My dad is a Daily Mail (AKA The Daily Fail) reader but you can't choose your family *sigh*. This particular article was about the Veganuary campaign and missed the point by such a large margin I laid it aside to rant about later.
Unfortunately, being me, I can't find the ruddy thing now. However, after much googling (the keywords are so damn common lol) I found it online here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5240825/DR-MAX-MIND-DOCTOR.html - quoted red in this blog.
This is gonna be a long one so grab a coffee and a snack and make yourself comfy...
INITIAL STATEMENT: This is a rant about bad journalism and an attack on a group of people just trying to make a positive difference. This is not about saying that vegans are better than other people or that you should participate in Veganuary. I don't care about your choices half as much as I do about you using false logic to justify them. Just say that you really like bacon and you don't care about the pigs that died for the benefit of your taste-buds.


WHAT IS VEGANUARY?
'Veganuary' is the name of a registered charity (1168566) which promotes veganism. Veganuary acknowledges that people choose veganism for a variety of valid reasons such as concern for animal welfare, environmentalism and health:
"Veganism is one of the most effective choices a person can make
to reduce the suffering of animals, help the planet
and improve personal health"
https://veganuary.com/about/
Veganuary promotes eating vegan* for the month of January. It is a time of year when, after the overindulgences of the festive period, people commonly make (often short-lived) resolutions to improve their lifestyle and diet, fitness and general health. 
*Veganism is so much more than diet but dietary changes are easy to implement and carry the most impact. See my waffling about veganism here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ-Wh56MqNg
People often think that eating vegan is difficult, expensive, arduous, problematic...Veganuary aims to dispel these and other concerns; the hope being that after a month people will want to continue being vegan or at very least cut down their animal-based consumption long-term. Unlike a lot of pro-vegan groups (which tend to be all or nothing, even to the point of hating on vegetarians cos they're not doing 'enough') they take a gentler stance that any changes from carnist / omnivore to a more ethical lifestyle is a good move.
After the month is up Veganuary continues to support and encourage people to continue living vegan year round. 

DO I DO VEGANUARY?
No. An overheard conversation (in early 2012?) led me to believe I may be lactose intolerant. I had been ill for over a decade, medicated for IBS which did nothing to help - and have been refused testing for lactose intolerance by several GPs - but cutting out dairy WORKED so I'm gonna say that's what was wrong with me all those years. Then I went vegetarian (again) at the start of 2013 because I just felt 'fed up' with meat. 
Unfortunately many vegetarian foods contain dairy so after several years of struggling with that (and my total lack of willpower to binge on Ben and Jerry's...I also have an eating disorder) and also with concerns that I might become allergic to eggs like my mother I transitioned to vegan in the second half of 2015. 
So as I am already vegan year round I do not 'take the challenge' of eating vegan for a month. I do however follow Veganuary on social media.

SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DAILY FAIL ARTICLE I STARTED OFF THIS BLOG POST TALKING ABOUT?
Right...titled "There's no need to be smug about your vegan 'detox'" it was written by Max Pemberton and published 6th January 2018.

First off, where has Pemberton got this idea that veganism, or more specifically Veganuary, is a 'detox'? Over and over "The idea is that by going animal-free for a month, you 'cleanse' your body" ...er, no it really isn't. The idea is that people will become vegan or at least eat less meat or dairy after trying it out for a month. It's like companies fishing for business offering free trials or reduced rates for an 'introductory period'. Going vegan permanently might feel huge but a month is an easier commitment.
"Veganuary, like any detox programme, is appealing because it's designed to be broken" ...no, it's really not. I repeat: it's not a detox, and whilst you might be "free to eat as many kebabs as you want" come February the idea is definitely that by then you won't want to.

Secondly, where has he got these ideas about detoxes? Admittedly most are faddy but the principle of 'clean eating' to allow your body to remove impurities is straightforward enough and backed up by science. And again stressing that veganism is not a detox veganism also doesn't equate to 'clean eating' - you can easily be a junk food vegan. 
Pemberton claims "we ingest and produce toxins all the time but our body is perfectly adapted to remove them itself" which is fair but not accurate. We are not perfectly adapted; our bodies are fighting an endless battle to keep balance against encroaching toxicity. He claims that we "go a bit bonkers and throw our biology textbooks out of the window" yet any number of campaigns have been run for people to cut out drugs, drinking, smoking, fats, sugars etc claiming that your body will naturally purge these "sins of yesterday" allowing the body to heal. That's not to say that the damage is fully reversible or that you can live however you want so long as you 'detox' occasionally. Who would quit smoking for example if there wasn't the incentive to undo a proportion of the damage? 

"I say this as a former vegan myself: it's incredibly, mind-numbingly dull." Dude, I have no idea what you were doing but you were definitely doing it wrong. Yes, checking labels is tedious as hell but  it's not EVERYTHING, and obviously the more you cook from scratch with unprocessed ingredients the less that's an issue. Does he mean the food is dull? No way. I've always been a bit...experimental in cooking but I have tried so many more new things since going vegan, especially in terms of world cuisine. There'll be more on this point later on.
What does Penberton mean that "basically every food that is nice has been near an animal in some way or another"? He can't possibly be arguing that potatoes, pineapples or peanuts are 'not nice' because, at some point while they were growing, an animal has been in PHYSICAL PROXIMITY to them?! According to the Vegan Society (https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism) "Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicible, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose" there's nothing in that about food's nearness to an animal. One assumes that what he ACTUALLY means is that the foods he personally likes have animal products in them. But that's still nonsensical because pretty much whatever it is you enjoy eating there's a vegan version available. Pizza Hut do a splendid vegan pizza, Fry's meat replacement products are great, the vegan version of Ben and Jerry's is divine. Veganism isn't ALL about raw veggies and no fun, or at least it doesn't have to be. If he was bored being vegan it's got to be because he ate too fussily or didn't make the effort.

How about the claim that vegan diets are "incredibly restrictive - and in many ways reminiscent of an eating disorder"...oh, I am gonna have fun with this one...carnists and general anti-vegans do love to compare the lifestyle with eating disorders, often drawing your attention to statistics which link the two. However, there is an important chicken-and-egg* issue here. People may go vegan because they are pre-disposed to food issues OR they might adopt veganism as a method of recovery.
*The egg came first. Eggs existed before chickens. The first chicken would have hatched from a chicken egg that was laid by a proto-chicken -an animal very like a chicken itself but not quite. That's how evolution (and selective breeding) works.
"Veganism does not cause eating disorders. Poor mental health causes disordered eating" 
http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/07/why-do-so-many-eating-disorder-survivors-turn-to-veganism-as-part-of-their-recoveries-6910356/
The idea of a link between veganism and eating disorders is especially ludicrous if you consider it the other way around. Many people with eating disorders lean toward veganism, especially during recovery, but the vast majority of sufferers are or were omnivores but no one suggests eating meat or dairy causes these problems! There is also absolutely nothing to correlate an omnivore diet with a better prospect for recovery.
The appeal of veganism to people like me who suffer from eating disorders is the control it allows us by automatically cutting out a load of things which are decidedly problematic. Most animal-based foods are high calorie, cheese and butter are just fat, red and processed meats are linked to cancer, eggs contain loads of cholesterol.
The above cited Metro article quotes Dr Julia Coates, a clinical psychologist, also as saying veganism is restrictive...BUT IS IT? In and of itself, I would say not really. Obviously the principle is that you can't eat a whole bunch of animal products but that leaves EVERYTHING ELSE: fruit, vegetables, seeds, nuts, grains, pulses and a whole bunch of processed products from vegan cheeses to Oreos! There is waaay more that I can eat than I can't. 
'Restrictive'...my kitchen is full of food, I used to have hardly anything in the fridge to the point I even doubted it was worth having one but now I struggle to find space in it.
"A whole new world of food and a new way of cooking are opened up to you.
You start experimenting with ingredients you've never used before,
or sometimes never heard of, like nooch or seitan" 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/26/vegan-diet-lifestyle-health-animals
My eating disorder involves bingeing and purging which leads me towards the junk-food vegan side whereas an anorexic might lean toward raw veganism, that being far more restrictive obviously. Then there are personal preferences and I eat damn near everything, being a fussy eater would make it a whole lot harder. It comes down entirely to how you're living as a vegan - it's the personal choices which matter, not the principle.
Pemberton compounds this idea of a restricted diet with the statement that "the healthiest diet includes a little bit of everything" but what is a well balanced vegan diet missing out on? Contrary to beliefs expressed on social media bacon is not a food group! We get plenty of protein, vitamins, fats, sugars etc. and also more fibre on average than omnivores. That IS a little bit of everything.

What about the 'smugness' referenced in the article's title or "being a vegan at least allows us to demand special attention" or "this 'I am special' mentality"? GAH! No. all the no. Yes I do talk about being vegan a fair bit but that's because we eat three meals a day plus drinks and snacks (on top of the other impacts, but how often do carnists buy leather goods or whatever?) so it's quite a 'present' thing in my day-to-day life. If veganism was a cultural norm it wouldn't be such an issue.
Do I feel 'smug' about being vegan? No. I feel good about myself cos I know it's good for me and the planet and that I am no longer causing suffering to animals but not 'smug'. If anything I feel a little guilty I didn't do it sooner and that I'm doing it from a position of lactose intolerance and personal preference rather than from the ethical standpoint. Do I feel 'special'? No. Do I 'demand special attention'? HELL NO! I'll ask about vegan options or whatever but it makes me really uncomfortable to bring attention to myself in any way at all. I have a lot of social anxiety and that's a thing I absolutely do not want.
Every few months I go for a meal with my extended family and we eat at a Toby Carvery which is great as they have vegan options for me. The last time however it was closed because of unforeseen circumstances so we moved the party to another restaurant. The restaurant was super nice and accommodating and the chef offered to cook me something especially but that kind of 'special attention' was more than I could cope with and I'm ashamed to say I pretty much ran away cos I was verging on a panic attack. Obviously SOME vegans will think themselves special snowflakes and enjoy being the centre of attention, causing a fuss, making people accommodate their needs etc but I am not one of them.

"With veganism there are the arguments about animal welfare and the environment. But you can care about both without going to such extremes" but HOW? How can you profess to care about animals AND condone their slaughter for your food? Even if you are vegetarian rather than vegan you're condoning the forced imprgnation of cows and the resulting slaughter of their calves and the crushing of male chicks which are of no use to the egg industry. How can you care about the environment when the resources used in meat production just don't make sense? The land use - to keep animals on and to grow plant food for their consumption - pollution, emissions of greenhouse gases and the incredible amount of fossil fuels and water it takes to produce relatively little food (both in terms of physical volume and calorific values).


And how is veganism "going to extremes" anyway? As I set out before, the whole point of Veganuary is to show people that it isn't extreme or difficult. It's all a matter of perspective anyway. Different time periods and different cultures would view a modern British omnivore diet as extreme. A huge chunk of the 'obesity problem' (which I think has a LOT to do with eating disorders) is easy access to cheap calories we eat to excess - a single fast food meal that is more than a day's calorie allowance - now that's extreme surely?!
Which leads me to my final point...

EXTREME VEGANISM
There are always people who will take a thing too far and they should not be taken especially seriously.
I have heard so-called-vegans say you're not a real vegan if you eat sugar (some countries filter sugar with bone char, the UK does not), if you drink coffee or alcohol (cos mind altering substances are animals???), if you don't eat all organic (because natural and no pesticides - unattainable but makes some sense) but also if you eat anything organic (because organic food is grown with animal fertilisers...yeah, that's not...please stop) and so on and so forth. it's pretty insane.
"When you're being called murderers and rapists,
that is overstepping the mark, for fairly obvious reasons"
- Alison Waugh, trainee farmer
Source for all purple quotes in this section:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42833132
Hello??? This is taken as a statement of extreme veganism but lets look at it shall we? Murder is only considered a crime when applied to humans but that is not particularly logical:

  • Humans are sentient creatures capable of experiencing pain and distress.
  • Farm animals are sentient creatures capable of experiencing pain and distress.
  • And whilst we're at it, fish in the sea are sentient creatures capable of experiencing pain and distress.

Taking the life of a sentient creature causing it pain and distress 
Similarly, rape is only considered a crime when applied to humans but violating an animal sexually - not forgetting sperm retrieval as well as forced insemination, many vegans describe the movement as feminist as they rarely acknowledge the violation of males in farming - is just plain WRONG.
I am personally not interested in being a 'vegan activist' because I feel that can be particularly off-putting to people who might otherwise be open to the idea. 
"activists hold vigils outside abattoirs and aim to turn the world vegan
by sharing images on social media of the animals' treatment"
and
"cases of activists standing in the meat aisles of supermarkets
with graphic images and noises of animals being slaughtered"
Are these extreme vegans? It might not be my choice but I can't argue against the point they're making. People consume meat and dairy without facing the reality of the suffering their consumption causes.
Joey Carbstron of Save Movement "denies being an extremist,
saying that people have to understand that what is happening to animals is extreme"
People may not want to be educated on these matters but it's like not wanting to see graphic images on the news or bear witness to human suffering. It's not about what you want; I've seen people object to being educated about war, famine, slavery, the holocaust, all sorts of things that they don't want to hear about because they find them distressing. However, the consensus is that people need to know about those things anyway. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Santayana)
"I don't think they can understand, or differentiate between the fact that
different animals have different purposes.
We have these companion animals and we have our livestock
and there is a line drawn there" - Alison Waugh
WHAT EVEN???
1. Animals may be bred for specific reasons - to be eaten or to be pets - but they do not exist for those purposes. It is just how we choose to use them! This is the sort of non-logic used to validate slavery; that black people existed to be subservient to whites.
2. The different animals, the 'line drawn'...this a social construct. Westerners who will happily eat pigs are appalled by China's consumption of dog meat for example. Dogs and pigs are both intelligent animals which make good companions. There is literally no difference except what is culturally deemed as 'normal' and 'abhorrent'. Again, the division of how animals are to be treated down the lines of species smacks of racial segregation or the holocaust; one variety of human being worth less than another. If that is false logic how can we use the same argument for animals? Even if we try to say our need is greater that's pretty much bullshit cos plants feed humans a damn sight better than animal carcasses do! The only real 'need' is in terms of bottlefed babies and tube-fed individuals where dairy is kind of necessary. Other formulas exist but are not without drawbacks.
She's literally justifying her position using the argument that other people think it's okay. Yeah...that's not really how it works. 

FURTHER READING
Blog on the Daily Fail's ongoing campaign against vegans:
https://thecrumbyvegan.com/2017/01/30/what-did-vegans-ever-do-to-the-daily-mail/
Channel 4 offends vegans by branding Veganuary participants as 'asswipes': http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/channel-4-veganuary-post-instagram_uk_5a65950ee4b002283004287a